17.2.6 正信希有 Faith to Have
观世音菩萨复白佛言：世尊！颇有有情于当来世，后时、后分、后五百岁，正法将灭时分转时，闻说如是色（1）经典句，生实想不？
View-Sound Bodhisattva reported to Veda again: Social Honor! Will there be many sentient beings in future, later hours, later minutes, later 500 years, to the time of correct law extinction is turning on, upon hearing this color (1) classic sentences, will they bear factual thinks? 
佛言：勿作是说！然复，善现！有菩萨摩诃萨于当来世，后时、后分、后五百岁，正法将灭时分转时，具足桫椤，具德、具慧（2）。复次，善现！彼菩萨摩诃萨非于一佛所承事供养，非于一佛所种诸善根。然复，善现！彼菩萨摩诃萨于其非一、百、千佛所承事供养，于其非一、百、千佛所种诸善根，乃能闻说如是色经典句，当得一净信心。
Veda said: Don’t say that! But again, Benevolent Manifestation! There are Bodhisattvas and Mahasattvas in the coming future, later hours, later minutes, later 500 years, at the correct law extinction time is turning on, fully possessing Sal Fasullo, fully possessing virtues, fully possessing gnosis (2). Again next, Benevolent Manifestation! Those Bodhisattvas and Mahasattvas aren’t undertaking and commonwealth-ing at one Buddha place, aren’t being projected benevolent roots by one Buddha. To say it again, Benevolent Manifestation! Those Bodhisattvas and Mahasattvas aren’t undertaking and commonwealth-ing at one, hundred, thousand Buddha places, aren’t being projected benevolent roots by one, hundred, thousand Buddhas, so they can hear this color classic sentences, should gain one immaculate faithful heart.
善现！如来以其佛智悉已知彼，如来以其佛眼悉已见彼。善现！如来悉已觉彼一切有情，当生无量无数福聚，当摄无量无数福聚，何以故？善现！彼菩萨摩诃萨无我想转，无有情想、无命者想、无士夫想、无竹马（补特伽罗）想、无意生想、无儒童（摩纳婆）想、无作者想、无受者想转。
Benevolent Manifestation! Thus-Come by its Vedic intelligence has known them all; Thus-Come by its Vedic eye has seen them all. Benevolent Manifestation! “Thus Come” has perceived that those all-sentient beings should bear boundless fortunate aggregates, should assimilate boundless fortunate aggregates, wherein? Benevolent Manifestation! Those Bodhisattvas and Mahasattvas have no I think turning, no sentient think, no living think, no warrior think (i.e., daily life people’s thinks), no hobbyhorse (Pudgala) think, no intent born think, no Abel (Manava) think, no creator think, and no acceptor think turning.
善现！彼菩萨摩诃萨无法想转、无非法想转，无想转亦无非想转（3），所以者何？善现！若菩萨摩诃萨有法想转，彼即应有我执、有情执、命者执、竹马等执。若有非法想转，彼亦应有我执、有情执、命者执、竹马等执，何以故？善现！不应取法，不应取非法，是故如来密意而说筏喻法门（4）。诸有智者，法尚应断，何况非法！
Benevolent Manifestation! Those Bodhisattvas and Mahasattvas have no juristic think turning, no non-juristic think turning, no think turning and no non-think turning (3), what’s so ever? Benevolent Manifestation! If Bodhisattvas and Mahasattvas have juristic thinks turning, they should have I obsession, sentient obsession, living obsession, hobbyhorse etc. obsessions. If they have non-juristic thinking, also they should have I obsession, sentient obsession, living obsession, hobbyhorse etc. obsessions, wherein? Benevolent Manifestation! Shouldn’t fetch law; shouldn’t fetch non-law! Hence Thus Come intimately said the raft metaphor juristic door (4). Wiser, all laws should be severed, none the less illegality!
 
注17.2.6-1，色即色蕴，参见11.4.1节。
注17.2.6-2，16.2节谈了俱足桫椤，13.4.4节谈的25有是俱德，11.6.4节谈的菩提分法是俱慧。
Annotation 17.2.6-1, Color means Color Node, cf. section 11.4.1. 
Annotation 17.2.6-2, section 16.2 talks about the “fully possessing Sal Fasullo”, section 13.4.4 talks about the 25 haves that are all virtues, and section 11.6.4 talks about the “Enlightenment Branch Laws” that are all gnosis.
注17.2.6-3，“无想转亦无非想转”是对涅盘（如图17.2.6-2）的描述，是“常（色）遍处”，亦名无所有天，常寂光天，微妙本心，毕竟空，等。
注17.2.6-4， 筏喻法门是这个佛教寓言：有人为了过河而造伐；达彼岸后他会弃伐而去，不会头顶着筏子，负重前行。
Annotation 17.2.6-3, The “no think turning and no non-think turning” is a description of Nirvana (see fig. 17.2.6-2), is a “pervasively constant (color) place”, also known as No Objectively Have Sky, Constant Silent Light Sky, Delicately Wonderful Original Heart, Empty After All, etc.
Annotation 17.2.6-4, the raft metaphor juristic door is a fable that a man crafts a raft to cross a river; after aboard another shore, he abandons the raft and does not continue his journey with the raft burden on his head. 
17.2.7 无得无说 Gainless, Nothing to Say
佛复问具寿观世音菩萨：善现！于汝意云何？颇有少法，如来以之证得阿耨多罗三藐三菩提（义为：无上正等正觉）耶？颇有少法，如来应无上正等正觉所说耶？
Veda asked full-life View-Sound Bodhisattva again: Benevolent Manifestation! What do you think? Are there few laws being depended on, so Thus Come testified and gained Anuttara-Samyak-Sambodhi (i.e., Upmost Correct-Equality Correct-Perception)? Are there few laws spoken by Thus Come when he was in the stillness of Anuttara-Samyak-Sambodhi? 
观音答：世尊！如我解佛所说义者，无有少法，如来以之证得无上正等正觉；亦无有少法是如来应正等觉所说，何以故？世尊！如来所证、所说、所思惟法皆不可取，不可宣说，非法，非非法；何以故？诸贤圣竹马皆是无为（参见11.6.4 《离系果》）之所显故。
View-Sound relied: Social Honor! Allow me to explain what Veda said! There aren’t few laws, by which Thus Come proved and gained Upmost Correct-Equality Correct-Perception, and no minor laws were spoken when Thus Come was in the stillness of Upmost Correct-Equality Correct-Perception, wherein? Social Honor! All laws testified, spoken, thought by Thus Come, all are non-fetchable, unspeakable, not laws, not non-laws, wherein? Because holy sage Hobbyhorses (i.e., Pudgala) are manifestations of “None As” (cf. 11.6.4 Off-is Fruit).
17.2.8 依法出生 Legal Birth
佛告观世音菩萨：善现！于汝意云何？若善男子或善女人，以此三千大千世界盛满七宝持用布施，是善男子或善女人，由此因缘所生福聚宁为多不？
Veda asked View-Sound Bodhisattva: Benevolent Manifestation! According to your intention, what say you? Such as a benevolent man or a faithful woman uses fulfilling the Three-Grand Great-Grand Worlds of seven treasures to broadly donate, does the person gain fortunate aggregates many?
观世音答：甚多，世尊！甚多，善逝！是善男子或善女人，由此因缘所生福聚其量甚多，何以故？世尊！福德聚福德聚者，如来说为非福德聚，是故如来说名福德聚福德聚（1）。
View-Sound Bodhisattva answered: Very Many! Social Honor! Much Many, Benevolent Renunciation! The benevolent man or a faithful woman, due to the deed, bears quantity of fortunate aggregates very much, wherein? Social Honor! Fortunate virtuous aggregates fortunate virtuous aggregates, Thus Come said, aren’t fortunate virtuous aggregates, therefore, Thus Come said names of fortunate virtuous aggregates fortunate virtuous aggregates (1).
佛复告观世音：善现！若善男子或善女人，以此三千大千世界盛满七宝持用布施。若善男子或善女人，于此法门乃至四段文字，受持、读诵、究竟通利，及广为他宣说、开示、如理作意；由是因缘所生福聚甚多于前无量无数，何以故？一切如来应正等觉皆从此经出，诸佛世尊皆从此经生，所以者何？善现！诸佛法、诸佛法者，如来说为非诸佛法，是故如来说名诸佛法、诸佛法（注2）。
Veda told View-Sound Bodhisattva again: Benevolent Manifestation! Such as a benevolent man or a faithful woman uses fulfilling the Three-Grand Great-Grand Worlds of seven treasures to donate. Such as a benevolent man or a faithful woman on the teachings, down to only four paragraphs of words, accepts, holds, reads, recites, finalizes to getting benefit, preaches and exemplifies to others, according to its theories to make intents; by the dos, the born fortunate aggregates are innumerable times more than the earlier, wherein? All Thus Comes corresponding to “correct equality enlightenment” are born from this sutra; all Vedas, Social Honors are born from this sutra, wherein? Benevolent Manifestation! Vedic laws, Vedic laws, Thus Come says, aren’t Vedic laws, therefore Thus Come says names of Vedic laws Vedic laws (2).
注17.2.8-1，前一福德聚是世间胜义；后一福德俱是超世间胜义。
Annotation 17.8-1, The first “fortunate aggregates” is mundane victorious significance, the second “fortunate aggregates”, is victorious significance of transcending mundane world.
注17.2.8-2，第一个词佛法是世间胜义，后佛法一词是超世间胜义。
Annotation 17.2.8-2, the first word "Vedic Laws" is the mundane victorious significance, and the second word "Vedic Laws" means the Victorious Significance of the transcending mundane world.
17.2.9 禁果 Forbidden Fruit
佛问观世音菩萨：于汝意云何？诸入流者颇作是念，“我能证得入流果（1）”不？
Veda asked View-Sound Bodhisattva: according to your intention, what say you? Do “Entering Stream (in Sanskrit is Sotapanna)” shamans often make the spell that “I can prove Entering Stream Fruit (1)”?
观世音菩萨答：不也，世尊！诸入流者不作是念，“我能证得入流之果”，何以故？世尊！诸入流者无少所入，故名入流；不入色、声、香、味、触、法，故名入流。世尊！若入流者作如是念，“我能证得入流之果”，即为执我、有情、命者、士夫、竹马等。
View-Sound Bodhisattva answered: No, Social Honor! Entering Stream shamans don’t make the spell that “I can prove and gain Entering Stream fruit”, wherein? Social Honor! Entering Stream shamans entered nowhere; therefore, Entering Stream is named. Not entering color, sound, incense, taste, touch, and law, hence the name of Entering Stream. Social Honor! If Entering Stream shamans make the spellings that “I can prove Entering Stream fruit”, that is having obsession of I, of sentient, living, warrior, hobbyhorse, etc.	
佛问观世音菩萨：于汝意云何？诸一来者颇作是念，“我能证得一来果” 不？
观世音菩萨答：不也，世尊！诸一来者不作是念，“我能证得一来之果”，何以故？世尊！以无少法证一来性，故名一来。
Veda asked View-Sound Bodhisattva: according to your intention, what say you? Do “One Come (in Sanskrit is Sakadagami)” shamans often make the spell that “I can prove and gain One Come fruit”?
View Sound Bodhisattva answered: No, Social Honor! One Come shamans don’t make the spell that “I can prove and gain One Come fruit”, wherein? Social Honor! Due to “not few laws” to prove nature of One Come, hence the name One Come.
佛问观世音：于汝意云何？诸不还者颇作是念，“我能证得不还果” 不？
观世音答：不也，世尊！诸不还者不作是念，“我能证得不还之果”，何以故？世尊！以无少法证不还性，故名不还。
Veda asked View-Sound Bodhisattva: according to your intention, what say you? Do “No Return (in Sanskrit is Anagami)” shamans often make spell that “I can prove and gain No Return fruit”?
View-Sound Bodhisattva answered: No, Social Honor! No-Return shamans don’t make the spell that “I can prove and gain No Return fruit”, wherein? Social Honor! Because of not having few laws to prove the nature of No Return, hence the name No Return.
佛问观世音：于汝意云何？诸阿罗汉颇作是念，“我能证得阿罗汉”不？
观世音答：不也，世尊！诸阿罗汉不作是念，“我能证得阿罗汉性”， 何以故？世尊！以无少法名阿罗汉，由是因缘名阿罗汉。世尊！若阿罗汉作如是念，“我能证得阿罗汉性”，即为执我、有情、命者、士夫、补特伽罗等，所以者何？世尊！如来应正等觉说我得无诤住最为第一。世尊！我虽是阿罗汉，永离贪欲，而我未曾作如是念，“我得阿罗汉永离贪欲”。世尊！我若作如是念，“我得阿罗汉永离贪欲”，如来不应记说我言，“善现善女人苦芭芭（参见插图17.2.6-35）得无诤住最为第一”。以都无所住，是故如来说名无诤住无诤住（2）。
Veda asked View-Sound bodhisattva: according to your intention, what say you? Do Ararat (in Sanskrit is Arhat, in Pali is Arahant) shamans often make the spell that “I can prove and gain Ararat”? View-Sound Bodhisattva answered: No, Social Honor! Ararats don’t make the spellings that “I can prove and gain Ararat nature”, wherein? Social Honor! Because not having few laws is named as Ararat, due to the reason and factors, the name Ararat. Social Honor! If an Ararat makes the spellings that “I can prove and gain Ararat nature”, that is holding “I”, sentient, living, warrior, hobbyhorse, etc., wherein? Social Honor!  “Thus Come” matching with Correct Equality Perception said that I gained “‘Non-Expostulation Dwell’ the Upmost No.1”. Social Honor! Even though I am an Ararat, left greedy desires forever, but I never have the spells that I gained Ararat fruit, severed greedily desires forever. Social Honor! If I make the spell that I gain Ararat, leaving greedily desires afar forever, Thus Come shouldn’t grant remembrance to me, “Benevolence Manifestation, benevolent woman Kubaba (see fig. 17.2.6-35) has gained ‘Non-Expostulation Dwell the Upmost No.1’”. Because of Dwell on nothing, Thus Come said the name of Non-Expostulation Dwell Non-Expostulation Dwell (2).
注17.2.9-1，此四沙门果的定义参见15.2.4节《 四离系果》。
注17.2.9-2，前 “无诤住” 是世间胜义，后 “无诤住” 是超世间胜义。
Annotation 17.2.9-1, for the definition of these four Shamanic fruits, please refer to Section 15.2.4 "Four Off-is Fruits".
Annotation 17.2.9-2, the first "Non-Expostulation Dwell" is the mundane victorious and the second "Non-Expostulation Dwell" is the victorious significance of transcending mundane world.
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