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6.10 不是有关系也不是没有关系

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回答: 6 沈阳和平房产局 由 Adam_Luyan 于 2023-03-08 15:27

一九九五年春,我研究生没考上,没事干了,就问付科长: “我该做些什么?” 他告诉我,得主动去和施工队的队长搞好关系,那样他们有事才会找我。
In the spring of 1995, I failed the postgraduate entrance examination and had nothing to do, so I asked Section Chief Fu: "What should I do?" He told me that I had to take the initiative to build a good relationship with the leaders of the construction teams, so that they would be able to do business with me.

我到了马洪光队长的工地,他看我闷闷不乐,就开玩笑地对人们说: “喂!你们谁也猜不着小卢在想啥呢!”
人们说:“你知道,就说说呗!”
When I arrived at team leader Ma Hongguang's construction site, he saw that I was unhappy, so he jokingly said to people: "Hey! None of you can guess what Little Luyan is thinking!"
People said: "You know, just tell us!"

马队长说:“小卢是在怀念几个月前他在遂川当老大的时候呢!那老大当的,可比咱局长威风多了。”
人们问:“那件事儿,到底是真的还是假的?”
Team Leader Ma said: "Little Luyan is nostalgic for the time when he was the boss in Suichuan a few months ago! That boss was much more powerful than our bureau chief."
People ask: "Is that affair true or false?"

马队长说:“人家兄弟都要围攻咱房产局了,要跟咱们争小卢;弄得局长们都愁眉苦脸的,一连开了三四次秘密会议。咱马凯华局长说,‘这卢岩是咋回事儿呢!?才两个多月,就整成这样儿;要是他在遂川那儿干上四五年,沈阳也不够大儿呀!’你们想一想,那是真的还是假的!”
毕姐问:“后来咋没事了呢?”
Team Leader Ma said: "Luyan’s brothers wanted to besiege our Heping Housekeeping Bureau and competing with us for Little Luyan. This made those bureau chiefs all nervous and held three or four secret meetings in a row. Chief Ma Kaihua said, ‘What's going on with this Luyan!? It's only been two months, he managed the Suichuan site like that. If he works there for four or five years, the Shenyang city wouldn’t be big enough for him!' Think about it, is that true or false!?"
Sister Bi asked: "Why did everything get better afterwards?"

马队长开始给我们讲,这事情最终是局长们找来了一位说客。那人把和平区的名人们(贼老大们)召集到了一起,为卢岩开了个 “正名儿大会”;事情就结束了。
人们问:“那么多的亡命徒聚在一起,不乱成了一锅粥了,还怎么开会?”
Team Leader Ma began to tell us that in the end, the bureau chiefs hired a lobbyist. The lobbyist called together the celebrities (thief bosses) in Heping District and held a "name-rectification meeting" for Luyan, so the affair was over.
People asked: "How can the meeting hold so many desperadoes together and it did not become a mess?"

马队长说:“咋说,人家那位说客是异人呢!与会的那些名人对说客的行为表现和说辞,无不惊奇,各个称赞。那帮人见了说课,就跟小学生见了老师似的,会场秩序井然。他们说,名人们是陆续到场的,开始的时候有二三百人,后来越聚越多。那个说客把他们组织起来了,坐成了一个圈,像是八卦阵(如图6.10)似的。外面被上万人包围着,把周围的小街道都给堵塞了。咱这么想:那肯定有几千人,但是大部分人是看热闹的。”
Team Leader Ma said: "What to say, that lobbyist is an extraordinary person! Those celebrities who attended the meeting were amazed at the behavior and speech of the lobbyist; all praised him. Those people saw the lobbyist, just like an elementary school student saw the teacher, the meeting was in order. They said that the celebrities arrived one after another, at the beginning there were two or three hundred people, and then more and more people gathered. The lobbyist organized them, sitting in a circle, like a Bagua Array (see fig. 6.10). The outside was surrounded by tens of thousands of people, blocking the small streets around them. Let's think of it this way: there must have been thousands there, but most of them were watching."

人们问:“几百人和一个人谈话,怎么谈?”
马队长说:“那帮贼也是有组织的,都是一组一组的,一伙儿内部互相商量,然后由发言人提问。那个说客就在八卦阵里走来走去的,随问随答,想都不想;说话声大,一句是一句,三两句,就扣题,联系到小卢的终身幸福上去了。而且,很多组同时发问,他不混淆,比如说,他在那说话呢!别的事发生了。他处理完回来后,接着说,没有反问,比如 ‘我们刚才说什么来的?’‘说到哪儿了?’没这事!”
People asked, "How can hundreds of people talk to one man?"
Team Leader Ma said: "That gang of thieves is also organized, all in one small group or one small gang. A small gang discusses with each other internally, and then a spokesman asks questions. That lobbyist just walked around in the Bagua formation, answering questions as they were asked, not even thinking about it. Speaking loudly, a sentence is a sentence, three or two sentences, and then buttoned up the topic, linking it to the lifelong happiness of Little Luyan. With many groups asking questions at the same time, he doesn't confuse. Say, he's talking there! Something else happened. He comes back from processing and then goes on, without rhetorical questions, like 'what were we talking about?' 'Where was it said?' None of that!"

人们问:“那还随便听啊,外人不也混进去了?”
马队长说:“你认为那些名人的名儿都是虚的!咱们这么想,外人肯定是进不去,只是在远处看着,听不清楚他们在说什么!”
People asked: "People can listen at will! Aren't outsiders also sneaking in?"
Team Leader Ma said: "You think the fames of those celebrities are all false! We think this way, outsiders will not be able to get in. They can just watch from a distance and not be able to hear what they are saying!"

人们惊讶地问:“这人可少见!他是哪的人?多大岁数了?长得什么样?”
马队长回答:“他们都认为说客是沈阳人。也奇怪,就那帮人的观察力,愣是谁也没看出他有多大岁数。有说三十多岁的,有说四十多岁的,五十、六十、七十多岁的,说什么的都有。许多人回想起来都不一样儿,说那人长相不特殊,但是干净利索,举手投足都让人爱看。”
People asked in surprise: "This man is rare! Where is he from? How old is he? What does he look like?"
Team Leader Ma replied: "They all thought the lobbyist was from Shenyang. Strangely enough, no one could tell how old he was based on the observative capability of those people. Some said he was in his thirties, and some said he was in his forties. Some said he was in his 50s, 60s, and 70s, you name it. Many people think it’s different in retrospect, saying that the person looks not special, but clean and neat, and everyone loves to watch it.”

毕姐说:“这是什么呀!怎么连多大岁数都没个谱!”
马队长郑重地说:“我可不怀疑那帮人的观察力;咱还就得依据在场人的观察。应当说,那人就是那种看不出年龄的长相(注,这个说客是刘团长,具有 “百变神通”,参见7.12节)。”
Sister Bi said: "What is this! Why cannot people even know how old he is!"
Team Leader Ma solemnly replied: "I don't doubt the observation skills of those people; we should rely on the observations of those present. It should be said that that person has the kind of appearance that cannot tell his age (annotation, the lobbyist is Troupe Leader Liu, has the capability of “Hundred Godly Transformations”; cf. section 7.12)."

(问题1 Question 1)
人们问:“他们都谈什么了?”
马队长说:“我也是听这个说,听那个说的。名人们说,卢岩是我们按照在沈阳流传了两百多年的老规矩挑选出来、立为老大的。所有的规矩程序都如实做了,核实了。另外,我们也在他身上做了很多工作,所以他是我们的人。”
People asked: "What did they talk about?"
Team Leader Ma said: "I also heard this and that. Celebrities said that Luyan was selected and established as the boss by us according to the old rules that had been passed down in Shenyang for more than two hundred years. All the rules and procedures had been done and verified as they were. Also, we have done a lot of work on him, so he is our man."

“说客说:这都解放多少年了,你们还用那些陈规旧习。那些规矩在法律上都不承认。再说,按老规矩,卢岩是房产局的人,不是你们的人。我就不相信哪个房产局的干部能同意把他给你们!另外你们认为卢岩是你们老大,人家卢岩同意不?”
"The lobbyist said: it's been many years since liberation, and you still use those old rules. Those rules are not even recognized in the law. Besides, according to the old rules, Luyan is a member of the Heping Housekeeping Bureau, not one of you. I don't believe any cadre of the Heping Housekeeping Bureau can agree to give him to you! Also, you guys think Luyan is your boss, does he agree?"

“那帮人讨论了一会儿,回答:卢岩没说同意,也没说不同意,没表态。”
“说客说:没表态就是还没接受;这就是你们一厢情愿!”
"The gang discussed it for a while and answered: Luyan didn't say he agreed, didn't say he didn't agree, didn't take a stand."
"The lobbyist said: no statement means he hasn't accepted yet; this is your wishful thinking!"

(问题2 Question 2)
“名人们说:如果卢岩嫌他的地盘小,我们可以把他的地盘儿划大点儿。”
“说客张嘴就答:你们给卢岩的地盘儿越大,他就死得越快!”
"The celebrities said: if Luyan thinks his territory is small, we can make his territory bigger."
"The lobbyist opened his mouth and replied: the bigger the territory you give Luyan, the faster he will die!"

(问题3 Question 3)
“名人们说:我们让卢岩当老大,是因为我们喜欢他,只是给他个名儿,不用他干活。”
"The celebrities said: we made Luyan the boss because we liked him, and just gave him a name and didn't need him to work."

“说客立刻回答:你们还认为那是对卢岩好呢!你们那是在害他呢!那片儿老大是个贼名儿,就是贼。人家卢岩还年轻,虽然没什么文凭,但也说不定将来还能挠个一官半职的。有了你们给他的这个贼名儿,他这一辈子就别想当官儿了。有了这个贼名儿,他一辈子见不得人,一辈子也没有出头之日了。”
"The lobbyist immediately replied: you guys still think that's good for Luyan! You are doing him a disservice! The “boss of that piece of land” is a thief by name. Luyan is still young, although not much of a diploma, but may also be able to sequentially succeed a position in the future. With this thieving name you gave him, he can't be an official for the rest of his life. With this thief's name, he would be shamed to see anyone for the rest of his life, and he won't be able to get ahead in life."

毕姐问:“那个说客就敢这么的对那帮人说话,骂那帮人?”
马队长说:“人家就这么说了。”
Sister Bi asked: "That lobbyist dared to speak to and scold those people like that?"
Team Leader Ma said: "That's what people said."

毕姐问:“那帮人听了之后,不生气?”
马队长说:“那帮人听了之后就不生气,还听高兴了呢!各个竖起大拇指,称赞:没想到咱沈阳还有这样的人物,今天真是长了见识,大开眼界!感到荣幸能和这个说客见一面。”
Sister Bi asked: "Aren't those people angry after hearing this?"
Team Leader Ma said: "The group of people were not angry after hearing this, and they were even happy! Everyone gave a thumbs up and praised: I didn't expect that there are such people in Shenyang. Today I have gained a lot of experience and opened my eyes! It's an honor to meet this lobbyist."

人们问我:“那个说客是谁?”
我回答:“不知道!马队长说的这些事,我根本不知道。”
毕姐问:“那个说客能是谁?他不说他和卢岩是什么关系,名人们能同意他代表卢岩吗?”
People ask me, “Who is that lobbyist?”
I replied: "I don't know! I don't know anything about what Team Leader Ma said."
Sister Bi asked: "Who can that lobbyist be? If he doesn't say what his relationship is with Luyan, can celebrities agree that he represents Luyan?"

马队长说:“他们的议题还真就集中在说客和卢岩的关系上。开始的时候,那些名人不同意。说客也不同意公开他和小卢的关系。他们僵持了很久。后来,名人们就一个、一个关系地问,你是他舅舅?你是他叔叔?你是他的干爹?什么的。说客都回答不是。名人们也说,你不给我们个明确的答复,我们也不好向下面交代呀!”

Team Leader Ma said: "Their agenda really focused on the relationship between the lobbyist and Luyan. At first, the celebrities did not agree. The lobbyist also did not agree to disclose his relationship with Little Luyan. They were in a stalemate for a long time. Later, the celebrities asked one by one, "Are you his uncle?” “Are you his godfather?" and so on. The lobbyists all answered no. The celebrities also said, "You won't give us a clear answer”, it’s hard for us to explain to the people below!”

“说客就说,让我好好想想,给你们个确切的说法。他就坐在那儿,瞪着眼睛,一动不动,面无表情地想。有人说他想了半个小时,也有人说他想了能有一个小时。我认为那就是很长时间呗!”
"The lobbyist said, let me think about it carefully and give you a definite explanation. He just sat there, staring, motionless, thinking expressionlessly. Some said he thought for half an hour, others said he thought about it for an hour. I think that’s a long time!”

“名人们开始担心了:这老爷子这样想下去,不得累晕过去呀!他们又怕惊吓着老爷子,就假装在他身边打架,大声吵吵:咱们这些人就这样欺负一个老爷子!这叫别的区的人听说了,咱们多丢人呐!有人说:我们在这儿摆几辆救护车是为了掩人耳目的,也不是真想把老爷子送医院去!”
"Celebrities began to worry: This old man will faint from exhaustion if he keeps thinking like this! They were afraid of frightening the old man, so they pretended to fight beside him and made loud noises: We people bully an old man like this! People heard about it, what a shame for us! Some people said: the purpose that we put a few ambulances here is to cover up other people’s eyes and ears, and we didn’t really want to send the old man to the hospital!"

“说客听了之后,笑了,说,我决定了,我这么说,我不说我和卢岩有关系;我也不说我和卢岩没有关系。”
"After hearing this, the lobbyist laughed and said, I have decided. I say this way that I do not say that I have a relationship with Luyan, and I also do not say that I have no relationship with Luyan."

“当时与会的名人们猜了六十几种关系,谁也没想出来这是什么关系。最后,名人们对此的决定是:考虑到个人隐私和宗教秘密的原因,允许他不公开他和卢岩之间的关系,同意他代表卢岩。”
人们问: “他们怎么看出那个说客和卢岩有深厚的感情?”
"The celebrities present at the meeting guessed more than sixty relationships, but no one could figure out what the relationship was. In the end, the celebrities decided on this: considering the reasons of personal privacy and religious confidentiality, the lobbyist was allowed not to disclose his relationship with Luyan and agreed that he represents Luyan.”
People asked: "How did they know that the lobbyist had a deep relationship with Luyan?"

马队长说:“这个还得听在场的人说。他们说,如果他和小卢没有深厚的感情,他不可能回答问题反应得那么快,张嘴就答;三两句就联系到小卢的终身幸福上去。也有人说,这是说客的策略。我个人认为,还是得以在场人的说法为主。”
Team Leader Ma said: "We should listen to the people present. They said that if he and Little Luyan didn't have a deep relationship, he wouldn't be able to respond so quickly to questions and answer questions as soon as he opened his mouth; he could connect to Little Luyan’s lifelong happiness in just a few sentences. Some people say that it is a lobbyist's strategy. Personally, I think it is better to rely on the opinions of those present."

人们开始盘问我,帮我猜想谁和我的关系是“不是有关系,也不是没有关系”(参见4.7节《灵魂转世的故事》)。可那时我的生活和记忆中没有说客这个人。
人们问:“最后,他们的结论怎么样?”
People began to interrogate me and help me guess who was "neither related nor unrelated" to me (cf. section 4.7 Stories of Soul Reincarnation); but there was no lobbyist like person in my life or memory at that time.
People ask: "In the end, what did they conclude?"

马队长说:“人家那些名人,谁也没把咱房产局放在眼里,说:说客与卢岩的感情深厚,有关系在先,看在说客的面子上,饶了咱和平房产局。名人们同意了,承认卢岩是咱房产局的人;并且同意如果卢岩不去找他们,他们就不主动找卢岩。那个说客还说:我已经跟和平房产局的领导同志们说好了,以后他们不派他去你们那地方了。”
Team Leader Ma said: "The celebrities, who didn't take our Heping Housekeeping Bureau seriously, said: the lobbyist and Luyan had a deep bond and a relationship in the first place, so for the sake of the lobbyist, they spared our Heping Housekeeping Bureau. The celebrities agreed, recognizing Luyan as a member of our Heping Housekeeping Bureau, and agreed that if Luyan didn't go to them, they wouldn't take the initiative to find Luyan. The lobbyist also said: I've made a deal with the leader comrades of the Heping Housekeeping Bureau that they won't send Luyan to your place in the future."

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