刘健君开始给我讲超渡这几句话。她先询问我舅舅从小到老的个人经历，像似巫医和算命先生那样的问题。一边问，她一边指出结症的所在。比如打死过几只黄鼠狼（注，有些心理疾病具有地区文化性），文化大革命中他毁掉了许多他舅舅的道教器具和经书。她说这些问题都要解决。
Eve Liu began to give me the words Transcendent Ferry by asking questions about my uncle's personal experiences from childhood to old age, like those of a witch doctor and a fortune teller. As she asked, she pointed out where the knotty problems lay. For example, he had killed a few weasels (note, some mental illnesses are regionally cultural), and he had destroyed many of his uncle's Taoist instruments and scriptures during the Cultural Revolution. She says these issues need to be addressed.
刘健君说：“先解决家庭的财产纠纷，安排他死后财产的归属。孩子们都应该表现出顺从他的遗愿，让他走得安心。”
我说：“这一点是显然的，说下一条吧！”
Eve Liu said: "First, you should settle the family's property disputes and arrange for the ownership of his property after his death. The children should all show obedience to his last wishes so that he can go in peace."
I said: "This is obvious, say the next clause!"
她说：“第二条是治疗恩怨情仇病（注，即精神病）。得了这种病，不能去医院看医生。医院的精神病科医生懂不懂精神病是另一个问题；他们真的很忙，忙着挣钱，没时间给病人看病。”
我被逗笑了：“那怎么办？找谁去？”
She said: "The second clause is the treatment of the Illness of Favor Grudge Love and Revenge (note, i.e., mental illness). You can't go to a hospital and see a doctor when you have this disease. Whether or not the psychiatrists in hospitals understand mental illness is another question; they are really busy, too busy earning money to see patients."
I was amused: "What then? Who to go to?"
她说：“得了这种病就得找明白人；或者自己看书，从书上找解决办法。”
我问：“我怎么能发现他和谁有仇，在因为什么闹心？”
She said: "If you have this kind of disease, you have to find someone who understands it; or you can read books yourself and find solutions from books (note, modern psychology books are also reliable, not psychiatry books)."
I asked: "How can I find out who he has a grudge against and why he is so upset?"
她回答：“我刚才不是在询问他的个人历史么！你到他家后，要注意观察他家的布置，比如墙上的画，后院的神龛什么的；跟亲戚朋友唠嗑时，你就留意于发现问题。你舅舅他自己也会跟你说，因为他对那事闹心。”
She replied: "Didn't I just ask about his personal history? After you arrive at his home, you should pay attention to the decoration of his home, such as the paintings on the wall, the shrine in the backyard, etc.; when chatting with relatives and friends, you should pay attention to find problems, and your uncle will tell you himself because he is worried about it. "
她继续说：“恩怨情仇病的病理就是，以前跟恩人、冤家、情人或仇人等发生了诤执，一般还是有些误会。这人就耿耿于怀；日子久了，诤劫进入了无意识，就成为心理疾病了。治疗的办法就是把恩人、冤家、情人或仇人找来，面对面地把矛盾解决了。人不见面，病治不好（注1）。见面三分情，很少有不能把矛盾谈开的。病人的心结解开了，病就好了。”
She continued: "The pathology of ‘favor grudge love and revenge’ disease is that one has previously had a quarrel obsession with a benefactor, a wrongdoer, a lover, or an enemy, etc., and there is generally still some misunderstanding. This person then holds an obsession; as time passes, the obsession enters the unconscious and it becomes a mental illness. The way to cure it is to bring the benefactor, the wrongdoer, the lover, or the enemy, and resolve the conflict face to face. If people don't meet, the disease cannot be cured (note 1). Meeting has 30% humanity, there are very few conflicts that cannot be talked out. When the patient's knot is untied, the disease is cured."
我感觉为难了，说：“这不是几句话的事，这要能言善辩的人说和，从中调解。看来，我学不了这事儿。没知识，没经验，我还不健谈。”
I felt difficult and said: "This is not a matter of a few words. It requires eloquent people to make peace and mediate. It seems that I can't learn this. I have no knowledge and experience, and I am not good at talking."
 
注7.5-1,此中治疗心理疾病的原理是佛的六种主要觉悟（即等、正、生、老、病、死, 参见15.1节 https://web.6parkbbs.com/index.php?app=forum&act=view&tid=4296921）中的对病的觉悟（参见10.6 治疗心理疾病的原则 https://web.6parkbbs.com/index.php?app=forum&act=view&tid=4280644）。
Note 7.5-1, the principle of treating mental illness (see 10.6 Principles of Curing Mental Illness) is an enlightenment to illness among the six main enlightenments of Buddha. The six enlightenments are equality, correct, birth, aging, illness, and death (see section 15.1).
（2 法眼 Juristic Eye）
她反驳道：“你错了！你还真就能办这事儿。如果你不行，从开始我就不会给你讲。我看你行，才说的。”
我迷惑不解：“你什么时候看我能行？”
She retorted: "You're wrong! You can really do this. If you couldn't, I wouldn't have told you about it from the beginning. I saw that you could, so I said it."
I was confused: "When did you see that I could do it?"
她说：“这事你得这么看，学办事与性格有关。就这事，如果没有合适的性格，有的人学两、三年也整不好。你有这性格，现在我把道理和办事步骤给你讲清楚。如果你在舅舅家碰上这事，你办起来就得心应手，能办成。如果你不行，我也不能给你讲啊！那，人家那里要死人了，我怂恿你过去，打架生气，什么正面作用没有。那我办得是什么事！我有那么缺德吗！”
She said: "You should look at it this way. Learning how to do affairs is related to personality. As for this matter, if learners don't have the right personality, some people won't be able to learn it for two or three years. You have this personality, now I explain the principles and procedures clearly to you. If you encounter this matter at your uncle's house, you'll be able to handle it easily. If you can't, I wouldn’t explain it to you at the beginning. People are dying there, and I'm encouraging you to go over there to fight and get angry, which has no positive effect. Then what kind of work am I doing! Am I that unethical!"
我问：“我有什么性格？你怎么知道的？”
I asked: "What is my personality? How do you know that?"
她说：“咱俩上次见面的时候，你和现在就不一样。当时，你笑呵呵的，那样儿，我都没认出来你！直到你问我，‘你是刘健君吗？’我就愣住了，心想：怎么还换人了呢！谈恋爱这事儿还带换人的！我想了好长时间，才想明白：你是个多重性格的人。就在刚才，你又变了，幸亏我知道了；若不然，可被你吓着了！截止现在，我看出来你有三个性格，其中一个就能办这事。”
She said: "The last time we met, you and now are different. At that time, you were smiling, like that, I didn't even recognize you! Until you asked me, 'Are you Eve Liu?' I froze, thinking how come the person is changed! How come the person replaced in the affair of falling in love! I thought about it for a long time before I realized: you are a person with multiple personalities. Just now, you changed again! Fortunately, I knew, otherwise, can be scared by you! As of now, I see that you have three personalities, and one of them can do this."
她给我解释了好多，还举例子。我根本听不懂，处于云里雾里，问：“怎么能确定，我在我舅舅家的时候，刚好是那种能超渡人的性格？”
She explained a lot to me and gave me examples. I couldn't understand it at all, was confused, so I asked: "How can you be sure that when I was at my uncle's house, I happened to have the kind of personality that can transcendently ferry people?"
她说：“你的性格随着环境的改变而改变。现在你这性格是溜边儿、躲躲闪闪。你到你舅舅家，如果碰到这种情况，你就自然而然地变了；你就勇敢起来了，挺身而出。你相信我，这点事儿，我100%不会看错。这事儿只要有人牵头，就能办成。谁和谁有多大的仇，不能原谅一个将死的人。”
She said: "Your personality changes with your environment. Right now, this personality of yours is to slip around the edges and hide. When you go to your uncle's house, if you come across such a situation, you change naturally; you get brave and stand up for yourself. Believe me, I am 100% not wrong about this. This is something that can be done if someone takes the lead. Anyone who has a grudge against anyone can't forgive someone who's going to die."
 
注7.5-2，法即轨持。我认为本文刘健君的这种看人神态的能力就是法眼。她的这个能力是从她家的一本书和父母学来的。那本书，俗称《天书》，是我故乡的法师（即牧师）和算命先生的通用教材，但只以师徒相传的方式传播，不公开贩售，我听说过很多次，没见过。根据传说的描述，我认为那套《天书》实际就是古典心理学，书中以金童玉女为基本模型（如图7.5.1-2；参见10.9《三位一体 https://web.6parkbbs.com/index.php?app=forum&act=view&tid=4280631》）。
Note 7.5-2, Law means track holding. I think this Eve Liu’s ability to see people's Godly (i.e. unconsciously) demeanor in this article is Juristic Eye. She learned this ability from a book in her home and from her parents. That book, commonly known as the Sky Book, is the universal textbook of the Juristic Teachers (i.e. priests) and fortune-tellers in my homeland, but it is only disseminated in the form of masters and disciples and is not openly peddled; I have heard of it many times, but I have never seen it. Based on the description of the legends, I believe that that Sky Book is classical psychology, with the Gold Boy and Jade Girl as the basic model for the book (see Fig. 7.5.1-2; cf. 10.9 Godly Trinity).
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